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Post by mymercedes on May 9, 2008 23:41:44 GMT -5
Are we getting close to a finalized class list? Any further thoughts on offering any gaited classes. Of course I have one of the only walkers on the planet who can't canter, but a two gait class would be fun!
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Post by coconut on Jun 1, 2008 22:36:21 GMT -5
Ok, I'm a show newbie and I don't know what a *sit-a-buck* or *bribe your horse* class is...I can bribe my horse pretty well but I don't know if it's show worthy also - does Coconut qualify for a rescue class? and can a rescue also enter a regular class? Or should they be separate? I have a coach! I'm letting her tell me what she thinks I can do...funny...she has not mentioned a riding event even once I think I know what that means....HALTER Classes!!!!
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Post by Whitewolf821 on Jun 1, 2008 23:13:50 GMT -5
Ok, I'm a show newbie and I don't know what a *sit-a-buck* or *bribe your horse* class is...I can bribe my horse pretty well but I don't know if it's show worthy I bet it is. It's exactly what it sounds like. You bribe your horse to follow you with whatever you want to hold in your hand (most people use food of some sort). Then you basically want to be the shortest time to make it out around a barrel/pole and back. Sit-a-buck is a bareback class where the rider puts money (did we use a $5 bill last year? can't remember) and everyone walks, trots, and canters around the arena. Last one to still have the money under their leg wins. Basically, if you have an extremely good seat bareback, this is the class you want to enter
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Post by leahlady on Jun 1, 2008 23:27:33 GMT -5
Jeanette, Coconut already follows you around! I have pictures to prove it! You guys might win!
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Post by coconut on Jun 2, 2008 0:20:51 GMT -5
Thanks Whitewolf821 Then BIBE we shall do! Sit-a-buck-not-so-much... And Leah DOES know...Coconut will follow me practically anywhere, even without food. I'm already excited Ever since I got her I've been wondering what I can do with her besides ride around in an circle/oval. We're really pretty good at that, by the way, at a walk. I think that the fact that she does anything at all that I ask her is a huge improvement over the days when I'd saddle her up and actually mount only to have her turn her nose and stare at my boot, outlasting my patience for standing still. We've come a ways, maybe not a LONG way, but still a ways & just might surprise ourselves in August... I notice the lack of the class: English Pleasure: Walk Only - returning/middle aged riders who try a)to sit up straight b)not to fall off where's that class, huh??? I dream of a controlled trot and to sit atop that beautiful canter of hers...someday...some way...perhaps even some show.
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Post by leahlady on Jun 2, 2008 0:27:24 GMT -5
"English Pleasure: Walk Only - returning/middle aged riders who try a)to sit up straight b)not to fall off" HAHAHAHA I love it!!!! This made me laugh out loud
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Post by fatblackmare on Aug 11, 2008 13:17:57 GMT -5
I too wish there was a walk only returning/ middle aged riders class. I would so be in that one. The lady who leases my horse is going to do all the undersaddle classes for me. My post baby belly is not up to sitting my mares trot yet.
One quick question - what exactly does one do in showmanship? I am planning on doing the english one - Do I need to take my mares flash off her bridle? Do only western horses have to do the pivot? Is there an english version? And what is up with the handler moving so much? I watched a few you tube 4-h videos on showmanship but I am not sure if that was just for 4-h or how it is done.
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Post by coconut on Aug 11, 2008 16:07:17 GMT -5
Whew! I'm glad I'm not the only one who's been hitting You Tube lately. I may be missing something but is there more than a costume change involved in English/Western Showmanship? AND I was wondering the same thing about the handler moving side to side so much: I thought it was to get out of the way of the judges view until the last 1 or 2 moves seemed to go right into their view! This is either going to be the most hilarious thing to watch (for those watching me) or the most fun thing to finally do!! I noted in the English Showmanship video's the handlers were wearing black velvet helmets (I have one!) & the Western handlers were wearing cowboy hats. So, again, is it a costuming thing or preference? I have no cowboy hat but I do have cute half pink boots now!! Does that mean I'll have to get a pink hat if I choose to do western? So many questions...so many boots OH......and does the halter itself count in this? I had an offer to borrow a show halter but I have this brand new pink one...I'm confused! Maybe I should have gone to watch more than Hunter Jumper shows in the past, huh!?
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Post by lynnm on Aug 11, 2008 17:04:50 GMT -5
As memory serves (and it is getting weaker as I get older) in my Western Showmanship classes we moved around as the judge moved around the horse. You always make sure the entire animal is available to the judge but are never out of the judge's site yourself. If, on YouTube you see the handler interfering with the judges view, that's wrong. Again...this is from 30 years ago and things may have changed or I've just gotten senile.
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Post by schwung on Aug 13, 2008 16:18:16 GMT -5
You don't have to change costumes for English/Western showmanship - it just means its combined - you can show in either english or western attire.
Typically, when showing in English attire the horse should be shown in a snaffle bridle. For Western attire, leather show halters (often with silver) are used.
The mechanics are the same. The judge will give instructions but typically you are asked to walk forward, halt, turn towards the horse and square the horse up, and then present the horse to the judge. You always stand on the opposite side from the judge, so as the judge moves around the horse, you move from one side to the other so you are not blocking the judge's view of the horse. Then the judge will usually have you walk the horse in a straight line, turn around, and trot back. Showmanship is a big deal in 4H, and the horse is judged on conformation, breedtype, and the handler is judged on attire, presentation skills, and presentation of the horse (cleanliness, etc).
English attire usually consists of hunt seat attire - khaki breeches, show shirt, hunt coat, tall black boots, gloves and hunt cap.
Western attire consists of western show shirt, cowboy boots, and cowboy hat. Most people wear jeans I think - chaps optional - don't know for sure as I have never shown western.
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Post by cat67 on Aug 13, 2008 16:36:04 GMT -5
Chaps are for riding classes only. In Showmanship, jeans are OK for this level of show but at the higher levels you wear stretchy boot cut dress pants that go with your shirt or jacket.
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Post by jaybird on Aug 13, 2008 16:36:33 GMT -5
thanks so much for this explanation, Jaime. It clears up a lot of confusion for me.
This show being a "fun" show, we don't have strict requirements for clothing, but if I recall last year, most people dressed "discipline appropriate." I wouldn't expect anyone to turn up in full hunt seat attire, but a neat & tidy version of that would suffice.
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Post by jaybird on Aug 13, 2008 17:01:14 GMT -5
Due to popular demand, I have decided to add a Walk Only class to our show. It will be open to all ages, and ridden either English, Western or bareback.
Okay Coconut and Fatblackmare, I want to see you guys out there for this!!! ;D And thank you very much for the great suggestion.
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Post by leahlady on Aug 13, 2008 17:55:37 GMT -5
Oh man, maybe I will enter the boyfriend in that class!!!!!! What fun!!!!!!!
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Post by coconut on Aug 13, 2008 21:32:31 GMT -5
argh!!!!!! Walk Only!!?!?!?!?!? That's MY Class!!!!! what to do? what to do?ok....even though it's a few days short of the 4 weeks I'm grounded, I'm going to sign up and I will see on the day of the show if I can do it. I actually sat on her today after her workout with Stephanie, my fill-in rider...ok..and we walked a couple of times around the round pen....VERY slow & controlled. We both did well Doc's more concerned about trotting...oh...and that falling thing!
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