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Post by leahlady on Apr 8, 2008 13:58:29 GMT -5
She is soo cute! I'm amazed at how much better she looks. And she is pregnant..of course! I bet the baby will be CUTE.
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Post by averyacres on Apr 8, 2008 15:26:33 GMT -5
She is very cute! She reminds me of a horse that I worked with a couple years ago, wish I had the picture to compare as I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up in this type of situation. At least the baby will have a good start at life.
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Post by Whitewolf821 on Apr 8, 2008 17:21:21 GMT -5
Just a thought, but for those of us that are far away and want to help, could we maybe start a thread for specific food/grooming/anything in the feed store needs? If the feed store allows us to call in and place orders for you, that seems like an easy way for me (and everyone else any distance away) to get things to you, and then I don't have shipping or anything.
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Post by dbaldstockings on Apr 8, 2008 19:45:37 GMT -5
I am posting this on several of the Carnation rescue’s threads, forgive me for duplication, and you may want to just post a link to this info and place it on a single thread. I hope there is some useful info here for those who would like to learn more about the horses, and the Saddlebred breed. I will be back later…must get 2 cats just spayed at the vet. There is a strong likelihood that the pictured Chestnut 4 yr old mare, Black/White pinto mare and Buckskin mare are the following horses: 139211 AD IDEM -CHESTNUT markings: STAR, STRIPE, CONNECTED SNIP, LEFT FRONT AND LEFT HIND PASTERNS HIGHER IN BACK, RIGHT HIND SOCK, WHITE. by Kabuki ex a Supreme Heir mare, 2nd dam by Attache 139213 ACQUIESCENCE -BLACK WHITE PINTO by Kabuki ex a Chubasco mare, 2nd dam Gift Certificate by Titleist 139992 GYPSY SEASHELL -BUCKSKIN markings: STAR, CONNECTED STRIPE AND SNIP TOUCHING BOTH NOSTRILS TO UPPER LIP, PARTIAL LEFT HIND CORONET, WHITE. by Seas the Golden Day ex a Special Spirit mare, 2nd dam by Flashy Bourbon Peavine, 3rd dam by Wing Commander. Saddlebred Rescue on the East Coast is a very good resource to see what SB’s look like, lots of pics –both when rescued and after recovery/rehab. Also very successful in their feeding of thin horses and treatment of injuries and health issues; they have placed hundreds of Saddlebreds over the years. forum.saddlebredrescue.com/default.aspA few resources for those who may not be aware yet of the many activities SB’s can do: www.americansaddlebreddressage.com/Chuck Grant, ‘Founder of American Dressage’, 1997 inductee US Dressage Hall of Fame shineabit.com/sa01002.htm shineabit.com/sa00001.htmSaddlebred Sporthorses on COTH chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=125041Saddlebred forum on ablackhorse.com forums.ablackhorse.com/index.php?s=cc20d95554723660bbdfb7699c248dd6&showforum=54Many, many pics of SB doing everything! www.saddlebredsarefun.com/
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Post by monicabee on Apr 8, 2008 22:55:32 GMT -5
I shouldn't be thrilled Hope is pregnant, under the circumstances, or that the birth is so soon (yikes, thought it would be a summer baby) but since she is, there's no reason not to indulge in a little pleasureable anticipation. Since the last few months of pregnancy are where the maximum amount of growth takes place, I believe, the fact that she got nutrition just in time is fortuitous - as much for her as for the baby. A healthy, lovely foal can be born even from a mare who looks severely malnourished, and Hope does not look so bad these days.
It's a shame that the KOMO 4 piece isn't online - we watched it after coming home from the vigil, as well as the KING 5 one - but since her possible pregnancy was mentioned there is a natural followup story (as Jaime was probably thinking).
A "name the baby" contest sounds like a great idea!
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Post by monicabee on Apr 9, 2008 12:17:29 GMT -5
This page has pictures of Kabuki. He does look believable as Hope's sire - the eye, the shape of the muzzle, build, etc. and although he is in Kentucky, apparently stood on the West Coast for a while. www.bluegrassarabians.org/stallions2008.htm#Kabuki
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Post by schwung on Apr 9, 2008 12:21:29 GMT -5
Yes, if you look at the head and nothing else, it looks very much like Hope. Hope has always looked the most Saddlebred to me of any of them.
I am not seeing much udder development yet and my guess is we still have a ways to go on the baby front.
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Post by dbaldstockings on Apr 9, 2008 19:19:43 GMT -5
Regarding Hope's possible pedigree Here is a link to her sire Kabuki at Win Gait Farm -nice pic and a video - wingait.com/breeding.shtmlHis sire Harlem Globetrotter - www.asha.net/members/stallion.php/075245Sand at Kalarama Farm - www.kalaramastud.com/Pages/Stallions.htmlif you scroll down on this page you will find Ch Passion, out of a 1/2 sister to Hope's 2nd dam Gift Certificate. Hope's dam French Eclair was shown Fine harness and Park, and would be full sister to 2 champions. Kabuki's dam Martha! Martha! was shown in the 5-gaited division.
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Post by dbaldstockings on Apr 10, 2008 15:00:24 GMT -5
I am posting this on Willow, Hope and Annie's threads for information. I emailed the following questions to the ASHA registrar: "Hello, I am trying to clear up many questions I have been asked regarding some presumed Saddlebreds surrendered in a rescue case. At this time, the former owner has not volunteered/may not be able to locate papers, nor may they be willing to sign transfers. So, here are the questions: It appears the horses are registered (age and markings seem to match) to the party who surrendered them, but to ensure positive ID, is bloodtyping necessary? if so, what is the cost to match to one existing record – who from and how are these kits ordered? If original reg. certificates are not forthcoming, can replacement certs be requested by the current “owner” ? cost? When does the late fee for transfer kick in, since this was an emergency starvation situation and over 30 days have passed. As the Sherrifs’ office (current owner) is unlikely to want to become members to complete any transfers, would back transfers be acceptable; final transfer to an individual final owner who joins the registry? Cost? Do you allow Rescue organizations to become members with ASHA so they may transfer horses? Cost? I realize this is fairly complex and look forward to your response. Thank you for taking the time." +++ The response (within 24 hrs) "You would not necessarily need to blood type any rescued horse if all research pointed to a particular horse as being the rescued horse; however blood typing (if the horse was originally blood typed) would absolutely confirm if the horse has been identified correctly. The kits are $50 each and the kit would need to be ordered from our Registry. You can request a kit by phone and we do accept VISA or MasterCard for payment, or you may send a check or money order to the Registry, including the name of the horse. Duplicate certificates can be ordered to replace lost papers. The Affidavit for lost/destroyed papers is on our website, www.saddlebred.com, if you need one of these. The cost for the duplicate papers is $50. The transfer fee is $50 and late fees do kick in after 30 days. There are no late fees for any transfers that have not been recorded as of yet, however these “back transfers” must be submitted with the current transfer. In other words all back transfers are $50 each, no matter when the horse was bought and the current transfer is $50 plus any late fees. Membership is available to individuals only. If the recorded owner is a member then no additional membership would be required. As long as someone involved with the current transaction is a member that would cover the membership requirement. Please contact me if you have any further questions or concerns. Thank you, Petra S. Green Sr. Registry Supervisor " p.green@asha.net I hope this is of some use.
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Post by schwung on Apr 13, 2008 0:52:21 GMT -5
Look who's looking bigger by the day:
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Post by safehorses on Apr 13, 2008 21:16:31 GMT -5
Gosh Jaime...you are going to have so many babies at your place it's almost like you are running a breeding farm (not that you bred any of these tykes, but the result is almost the same). I wonder if we can write off to any of the big breeding concerns to ask for advice/donations/etc to help you out. Anyone on this board with connections?
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Post by dbaldstockings on Apr 14, 2008 14:41:36 GMT -5
here is a timely opportunity; www.thehorse.com/VideoLibrary.aspx?tab=webinarUnderstanding Foal Care Sign up now to attend TheHorse.com's free live Webinar on Understanding Foal Care, sponsored by Intervet. The seminar will be held Thursday, April 17 at 8 p.m. EDT. Dr. Kimberly Sprayberry will take time out from the busy Kentucky foaling season to discuss the health and care of foals from before birth through the early stages of life. Sprayberry offers special insight from the front lines of one of the world's busiest equine neonatal intensive care facilities (Hagyard Equine Medical Institute in Lexington, Ky.). She will help you understand how to prepare your mare for foaling, the stages of labor, what can go wrong with the foal, and how you and your veterinarian can work together to avoid these problems. Sprayberry and Dr. Wendy Vaala will also be answering questions live during the presentation. Don't miss your chance to participate in this live Webinar on April 17! Need help? Have comments? Contact us at THWebinars@TheHorse.com Already have questions on foal care? Email them now, and Drs. Sprayberry and Vaala will try to answer them during the Webinar. Register to watch the webinar so you don't miss your answers! About the Presenters Kimberly Sprayberry, DVM, Dipl. ACVIM, is an associate internist at Hagyard Equine Medical Institute in Lexington, Ky. Wendy Vaala, DVM, Dipl. ACVIM, is an Intervet equine technical services specialist and a former private practitioner.
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Post by asb2 on Apr 21, 2008 3:55:03 GMT -5
The foals of gold color should all be by the sire Seas the Golden Day.
The filly Emma was called Dazzle (Dazzling Treasure) there shoudl be another filly with a black tail (also buckskin pinto) called Song (Song of the Sea).
I will try to post pics through dbaldstockings ...it is late and my 3 am alarm is soon to go off so my brain is not figuring this photo thing out...
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Post by asb2 on Apr 21, 2008 3:59:25 GMT -5
Alot of these mares should have came from Wind Walker Farms before they closed the doors due to owners health. Shell Game was one and I am recalling a couple of the others ... The Kabuki bred mares should have a link to that farm/owner and look familuar. These are all nice bred mare.
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Post by Whitewolf821 on Apr 22, 2008 0:34:13 GMT -5
How is Miss Hope feeling Jaime? That baby bugging her too badly yet? I really hope that baby's healthy after all mommy went through!
When are we going to start the name game? Maybe we could start a date/sex of foal game too! Whatever brings a bit more money into these horses sounds good to me!
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