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Post by Kea's Crest on Sept 9, 2009 22:44:16 GMT -5
Oh wow, fingers crossed! ;D He's such a handsome boy.
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Post by crimsonlight on Sept 11, 2009 11:42:38 GMT -5
I hope this one goes through! He's such a sweetheart.
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Post by Denali on Sept 11, 2009 23:02:35 GMT -5
Crossing my fingers for Scotti!!!
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Post by schwung on Sept 13, 2009 11:14:23 GMT -5
Unpending.
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Post by crimsonlight on Sept 13, 2009 14:52:50 GMT -5
What happened?
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Post by schwung on Oct 19, 2009 23:45:09 GMT -5
*sigh*...another emergency vet bill tonight. My fault - the horses came off the pastures about a week ago. I've been rotating them in turnout out onto the smaller grass pastures I let grow the last few months so they all get a little grass time a couple of times a week. I didn't even think anything of it since they were all out on grass all summer, and none of the horses have had any trouble - sometimes they only get an hour or two or sometimes I put a couple in my front pasture which is pretty lush. Well Scotti and Rhythm have been out a couple of times for short periods but today they were out for most of the day. Around 3pm I looked outside and noticed Scotti lying down, but thought he was just enjoying a chance to lie down on the soft ground for a nap. He was up later, but then not long after he laid down again. Then when I went to bring him in he was docile...too docile for Scotti, he always has to try to be Naughty and he didn't once. And then I fed him his grain and instead of diving into it, he took a bite, and then started doing his infamous lip in the air, which is when I knew something was wrong because that is what he does whenever he is scared, upset, hurting, anxious, or excited. I was in the process of trying to take his vitals and on the phone with Hannah when he laid down on the mats in the shelter - ok, now definitely not ok. I checked his gum color and freaked out when from what he would let me look at was dark blackish/purplish color and at that point Hannah decided he needed to be seen. I took him out for a walk and he was pretty quiet and well behaved and then finally he passed a small pile of manure and was making a lot of gas noises and he immediately perked right up, just as Hannah's truck pulled in. The dark gums turned out to be pigment (guess buckskins can have black points on their gums too!) but he was definitely having a gas colic and we gave him some banamine and by then he was perky enough to give us quite a bit of trouble...Naughty Scotti was back.
But THEN we went to put him back in his paddock and found Rhythm lying down. Sure enough, same thing was going on with him, he was burping gassy stuff and making lots of gurgling noises, so he got himself some banamine also.
So I guess I am going to have to be pretty careful with the lush grass I "saved" and make sure the horses are only on it sparingly. The funny thing is I had been using that pasture all week - Wishes, Slam, Vanna, Annie and Jasmine had all been out there for hours at a time without a problem. Anyway I am just kicking myself for not being more careful about it. :-(
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Post by lyn51 on Oct 20, 2009 0:33:45 GMT -5
Take a deep breathe. Who would have guessed that would have happened.
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Post by monicabee on Oct 21, 2009 14:05:28 GMT -5
When the weather gets colder at night the grass gets stressed and produces more sugar without using it up - if I recall it is better to wait until afternoon for turning out if the concern is the amount of sugar in the grass.
I am not sure if that is applicable here - it could also be the quantity they ate. Just one more thing to fret about and juggle.
I am glad he and Rhythm didn't suffer more than a bellyache in the end.
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Post by zebradreams07 on Oct 21, 2009 15:55:52 GMT -5
Monica, you have it backwards. At night the sugars are drawn down into the roots; during the day they migrate back up into the blades. The best time to turn out is early in the morning - but AFTER the dew has evaporated, as parasites eggs are often in the water.
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Post by schwung on Oct 21, 2009 15:59:23 GMT -5
In any case, I think the sugar content is more of a concern with regards to foundering, not colic. I think this was simply too much grass after they had adjusted to being off of it for a few days. In any case, they are fine now, and everyone is getting limited now on grass time.
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Post by monicabee on Oct 21, 2009 18:46:45 GMT -5
Hmmm, have to go back and research a little. I thought high sugar or fructans in a grass are what make it "rich" as they increase fermentation in the gut, thus causing gas colics.
The afternoon comment was only meant to refer to when there is a frost at night - it was not well-worded -- as zebradreams pointed out, in general it is the night/early morning that is usually better for laminitic or sugar-sensitive horses. Didn't know about the dew/worm issue.
Jaime already observed that that morning or night is less important that they were just out there for longer than customary. It can be hard to know what will be an issue sometimes - what is fine for one horse doesn't always work for another. Maybe the older horses have a more robust gut flora and can accomodate changes in diet more easily.
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Post by schwung on Nov 16, 2009 0:33:00 GMT -5
Pending adoption again!
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Post by Angel62197 on Nov 16, 2009 4:52:59 GMT -5
Amazing! Winter is coming and all these wonderful horses are getting a new home for the holidays.
Good luck to Scotti and his potential new owner!
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Post by Kea's Crest on Nov 22, 2009 11:48:06 GMT -5
Good luck Scotti boy!
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Post by Angel62197 on Nov 24, 2009 13:51:23 GMT -5
Anxiously waiting to hear if things went through for Scotti!
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