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Adara
Nov 1, 2006 15:27:16 GMT -5
Post by cat67 on Nov 1, 2006 15:27:16 GMT -5
She does sound pretty stir crazy right now. But I agree with disciplining her - pregnant or not, kicking and biting are totally unacceptable and if she won't let you near the baby, that's going to be a huge headache.
I have worked with one bitey rescued horse and I DID growl at him EVERY time his ears went back. Just wanted to remind him no form of aggression was acceptable whatsoever. It's good to nip these things in the bud.
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Adara
Nov 9, 2006 20:30:54 GMT -5
Post by gypsygirl on Nov 9, 2006 20:30:54 GMT -5
How's Miss Adara doing? Still raising cane? Baby yet???
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Adara
Nov 10, 2006 18:06:22 GMT -5
Post by rachelle on Nov 10, 2006 18:06:22 GMT -5
Finally I'm back online. Still dealing with mud, water, and a huge mess, but we're slowly starting to get it all under control mostly thanks to about 24 yards of chips delivered in the last two days. Adara still has not foaled. She's still being a crab. Sweet to us when we have food in our hands, but does her "I'm going to get you talk" at other times. Anyway, here are some pics I took yesterday. I swear the more weight she gains the less pregnant she looks at times. Other times that belly is huge! I'm hoping she foals soon. It's getting rather cold out at night - again.
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Adara
Nov 10, 2006 18:17:13 GMT -5
Post by shireluver on Nov 10, 2006 18:17:13 GMT -5
She looks really good. Her topline is really starting to fill in. Way to go Rachelle.
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Adara
Nov 10, 2006 18:20:14 GMT -5
Post by schwung on Nov 10, 2006 18:20:14 GMT -5
What she looks to me is more slab-sided than she was. Which could mean she is going soon, I hope so!
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Adara
Nov 10, 2006 19:11:14 GMT -5
Post by rachelle on Nov 10, 2006 19:11:14 GMT -5
I hope she goes soon. She's eating a ton of feed ( two big serving of her 'mix' a day - fills up her tub - and over a bale of hay, fast approaching two bales a day, probios, minerals, vitamins... even snuck in some wormer one day, I think she got most of it). Whenever she runs out of hay, she neighs until someone goes to see what she wants. Then she'll snort until she gets more hay. She'll take most of the day to eat her first bin of feed mix and then take only part of the night to eat the next. And she constantly has hay, we keep the wheelbarrow outside her stall filled with flakes of hay for her. She just eats and eats and eats... And I still don't have any baby goats either. With my luck they'll both have thier baby/babies at the same time and I'll run myself half to death running up and down the hill between them both. I'll let you know when she does finally foal.
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Adara
Nov 13, 2006 15:06:40 GMT -5
Post by rachelle on Nov 13, 2006 15:06:40 GMT -5
Well, still no foal. She's currently pacing. I'm thinking she doesn't like the wind which has really picked up alot since yesterday. She's just walking circles around her stall. She hasn't finished her breakfast yet (the chow mix) but has eaten some hay. She just seems really nervous today.
She's still not doing real good at leading. Somedays are really good and others she's a total brat. And strangers make her really really nervous. She'll do her thing of putting her butt into the corner and snort snort snort at them and that's usually after running back and forth a couple of times. She only occasionally spooks with us anymore.
She's getting there. I really hope she foals soon though. It's starting to get cold out and stay that way most of the day.
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Adara
Nov 21, 2006 16:06:44 GMT -5
Post by rachelle on Nov 21, 2006 16:06:44 GMT -5
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Adara
Nov 21, 2006 16:09:35 GMT -5
Post by diamondindykin on Nov 21, 2006 16:09:35 GMT -5
Didn't you see the baby kicking? If she were due next year you would be able to see the baby move right now. I am thinking that she is due next year (early)!
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Adara
Nov 21, 2006 16:21:26 GMT -5
Post by rachelle on Nov 21, 2006 16:21:26 GMT -5
Yes well we can see 'something' poke out occasionally, but well, I'm just not really good at saying 'that's the baby' or what... We're leaning more toward due early next year as well, but we kind of want to know one way or the other. The more weight she gains, the less pregnant she looks and she's gaining a lot of weight now.
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Adara
Nov 21, 2006 16:24:03 GMT -5
Post by diamondindykin on Nov 21, 2006 16:24:03 GMT -5
Well hopefully the vet can palpate her this time so you know for sure!!
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Adara
Nov 21, 2006 16:41:47 GMT -5
Post by rachelle on Nov 21, 2006 16:41:47 GMT -5
We'll leave that up to the vet. Adara can still get real aggressive at times and despite wanting to know, I do not want anyone hurt. If the vet thinks it will go okay, then we'll try to get a palp done and see. Otherwise forget it.
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Adara
Nov 21, 2006 22:57:18 GMT -5
Post by rachelle on Nov 21, 2006 22:57:18 GMT -5
Okay so I talked to the vet and here's what we decided. Dr. Hannah said that she just doesn't trust this mare enough to do a palp on her. She's way to unpredictable. So the next option is a blood test. Dr. Hannah can do one herself, but she's had mixed results with it and doesn't really trust it. There's another one that she can send into the lab that 'can' get better results depending on how far along she is and the mare's levels... so that's an option, doesn't always tell, but is an option. Or we can just watch her and wait. We're thinking that since she has been a broodmare for years and years, she'll probably give me warning before she does foal. Like get the bags back or something like that, a sign, but again that's not always the case... At this point I think we'll just keep watching her and try to get a runout built for her. Or maybe build a shoot to the round pen (anyone have about 200 feet of fence material?) so we can run her out there for excersise and work and then run her back to the stall for the rest of the time... and just keep waiting and watching... If anything changes I will let you all know, but at this point it looks like that if she is pregnant, she's not due for at least another month or longer (Dr. Hannah agrees with that timeline - based on what we do know about Adara). The good thing is that Adara is gaining weight nicely and so she should be in great shape when/if she foals. And I can go back to sleeping in my nice comfy bed - at least for a while.
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Adara
Nov 23, 2006 12:33:25 GMT -5
Post by schwung on Nov 23, 2006 12:33:25 GMT -5
Ah yes...the blood "snap" test - we haven't had such good luck with those....
First there was Monica, the mare I brought that had an udder like a milk cow full of milk, and was huge and foaling appeared imminent. The snap test said she was pregnant, and then we followed it up with a palp, in which Hannah was pretty sure she felt a moving fetus in there...well...3 weeks of foal watch later, her bag was getting smaller, and I was getting tired of foal watch. I had my other vet ultrasound her...no baby at all.
The same day we used the snap test on my pony (that was believed to be pregnant), it too was positive, but no baby appeared the following spring....
So I think we both kind of decided the things were basically worthless....
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Adara
Nov 24, 2006 2:30:02 GMT -5
Post by kimtah2 on Nov 24, 2006 2:30:02 GMT -5
Oh my, I hope Adara doesn't end up acting like my shadow. Shadow was a horse just sitting in a pasture for years and years...never cared for much...and never around other horses. I finally was able to purchase her and so the training began. She was ok with me, but other people and animals...she would be very unpredictable....striking out...squeeling...kicking and occasional biting attempts. Sometimes she is a perfect angel, but other times she is in the attack mode. Anyhow, I decided to bred her to calm her down and for a permenant pasture friend. Her heat cycles were strong and she was an easy breeder. When the foal was born she licked him a bit and even once nickered softly...but then he got up and wanted to touch her...she squeeled and did threatening strikes to the ground. This went on and on with him trying to come close and her running away squeeling. Finally we gave up and had to hand raise little Beau. Keep a close eye on her when the foal comes...please. Good luck to all.
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