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Post by jaybird on Jan 10, 2008 2:32:49 GMT -5
Kleenex at the ready...another update from Ginger and Melanie...and a VIDEO...!!! They are just doing great!...I will do a proper update tomorrow...vet will be here at 9a.m.and I will send results to you along with more pics. Melanie has posted a video on youtube of their first pasture turnout from today...what a couple of fine people those two are...their personalities are just blossoming thru....they make me smile every time I am around them, and they smile right back! How great is that?? www.youtube.com/watch?v=scXAJJ-MEGwUpdate on Grey mare in Oregon...she should be picked up in another 5-6 days, ..as soon as her health cert. & coggins test are back. I am in no hurry to send away the other 2, we can squeeze all 3 in for a while, what with you all supplying the feed for the two...they are making such great headway emotionally as well as physically, that I just hate to see them have to go thru another change for a few more days at least.
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Post by huskiesnhorses on Jan 10, 2008 8:26:02 GMT -5
Man..........talk about mixed emotions..... 1/2 of me - ready to cry the other 1/2 wanted to kick the S! outta someone.......... sigh
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Post by Buena on Jan 10, 2008 8:44:43 GMT -5
Spaying dogs and cats is expensive enough, I cannot imagine how much it would be for a horse. Since it usually priced by weight. It is permanent, that is for sure. It can be reasonable depending on the vet and procedure. I had one quote for around $1500 up in Mt. Vernon for a flat out spaying. My friend had her mare done standing with a laparoscopy type procedure for less than $1000 I think by a vet in Ellensburg. Of course those were prices from pre-2000, too. If I could have afforded it and didn't think it would adversely affect Ariel's health then I would have done it a long time ago. Now, her health is somewhat fragile and I am not riding her, so it's not really worth it.
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Post by ecaitlynn on Jan 10, 2008 11:13:36 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the video -- they look so anxious to graze on anything they can, poor dears. They are going to be so very beautiful when they are healthy. THANK GOD they've been rescued.
Beth Thompson (WA)
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Post by cat67 on Jan 10, 2008 11:38:25 GMT -5
Well, honestly, if SAFE is that concerned about breeding, spaying is the answer. I also believe there are implants that can render a mare sterile for some years - like horsey Norplant. I seem to recall someone on my blog talking about them doing that with mustangs.
I can't see youtube at work but I look forward to seeing the video! They must be feeling SO much better already after a few days of good food!
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Post by averyacres on Jan 10, 2008 11:41:29 GMT -5
Aw, what precious babies...I was okay watching the video until Pie turned around to look, and it so reminded me of JR and the look he had when he was first rescued... ...sweet ol'Pie...you've stole my heart
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Post by schwung on Jan 10, 2008 11:51:13 GMT -5
Cat - I am not that concerned about breeding because we carefully screen applicants and our adoption contract is very clear. If there is even an "accidental" breeding of one of our rescues there is a mandatory $500 donation to SAFE for bringing another life into this world, which in turn takes a potential home away from a horse without one.
I am sure that Liz was speaking in general terms of options for others rehoming horses. Spaying is a drastic solution and obviously not a cost-effective one for a rescue.
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Post by slew on Jan 10, 2008 12:14:18 GMT -5
okay, I have hardly slept all night, I am irritable and now that I have seen this, I feel like taking a car trip and slapping the bejesus out of the trash that did this to these horses.
WTF is wrong with people?
I feel badly because I have mud and my horses don't have a big barn...........
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Post by Rose on Jan 10, 2008 12:30:36 GMT -5
I can't believe that someone would let thier horses get into such horrid condition. What a relief that the previous "owner" relinquished these two. Now they are on the right path recovery.
I'd like to kick the s**t out of people who mistreat any animal....I mean geez!
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Post by skemper on Jan 10, 2008 12:36:41 GMT -5
Spaying dogs and cats is expensive enough, I cannot imagine how much it would be for a horse. Since it usually priced by weight. It is permanent, that is for sure. It can be reasonable depending on the vet and procedure. I had one quote for around $1500 up in Mt. Vernon for a flat out spaying. My friend had her mare done standing with a laparoscopy type procedure for less than $1000 I think by a vet in Ellensburg. Of course those were prices from pre-2000, too. If I could have afforded it and didn't think it would adversely affect Ariel's health then I would have done it a long time ago. Now, her health is somewhat fragile and I am not riding her, so it's not really worth it. Probably 2 years ago our vet told us that if we wanted to get our mare spayed it would cost about $1000 and we'd have to have it done in Olympia (closest place to us). I read about some sort of implant being done with the mustangs, too. I also read that they are working on or already have a shot for horses in Australia but it's not in the U.S. yet. Sheryl
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Post by leahlady on Jan 10, 2008 13:50:36 GMT -5
Good lord they are so thin. Makes me want to cry . Thank god they are in safe hands at last.
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Post by lizstabbertphoto on Jan 10, 2008 14:30:56 GMT -5
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Post by cat67 on Jan 10, 2008 15:34:23 GMT -5
I just can't wait to see the video. It will be good to see them CLEAN. They were standing in 2 feet of manure, it was the grossest thing ever.
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Post by oneidea on Jan 10, 2008 15:41:32 GMT -5
I cant even fathom how a person can let their animals get that bad. How can you look at them and not know that there is something wrong That's the $64K question... I think many *can't* see it - or choose not to see it. Certainly it borders on pathology for many of them... We rescued a mare back in Sept that was in as bad or perhaps worse condition than these two, and the owner didn't (couldn't) see anything wrong with her (she was a 1 - 1.5 BCS). Seriously, I paid a small fortune for her just to get her out of there, but the owner just couldn't see it... I don't think she was maliciously starving and neglecting her - she just DIDN'T (perhaps couldn't) see the condition the horse was in (and of course, she had WAY too many horses - isn't that always the case?). We took her that night because we seriously thought she wouldn't live through the night... The guy who trailered for us suggested taking her straight to the vet for euth. It makes you wonder how many of them never make it out of their own personal hells and die silently in those conditions, never knowing a full belly, a clean dry stall, or a loving touch??
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Post by schwung on Jan 10, 2008 16:23:31 GMT -5
I just got an update on the horses as the vet just finished evaluating them. The news is somewhat mixed. The horses are in very bad condition - the vet felt that they were probably 48 hours away from death, the mare being worse than the gelding.
Isabelle's teeth are horrible, but cannot be done until she is stronger. She will be put on antibiotics for the sores in her mouth. Her temp. is normal, no sign of laminitis, and should recover fully.
Pie's a very old horse, as we knew. His teeth are even worse than Isabelle's, the vet did not think they had ever been done and was amazed that he was able to eat anything. He does not see any sign of laminitis - current or previous. He is not strong enough to have his teeth addressed yet either. Pie has a minor heart murmur and is partially blind in both eyes. However, the most concerning issue with Pie right now is his gums and eyes are yellow, which could indicate that his liver or kidneys are failing and his body is shutting down. We have taken blood and the results should be back tomorrow. Right now, despite his condition, his attitude is wonderful, he is bright, friendly, and curious, and he definately seems like a horse with a strong will to live. His foster provider describes him as a total ham, who loves to make funny faces, and whose ears fly forward every time he gets a "good boy" or receives a pet on the neck.
The mare, who was more depressed than he, is also starting to perk up a bit more, and is showing signs of having had some good NH handling in her past. Both are good family horses, with impeccable manners, and at some point were once well handled and treated kindly.
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