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Post by coconut on Jul 8, 2010 0:31:37 GMT -5
We've been taking turns checking on our girl tonite and when I was out there at 9ish, she was standing in the stall so I opened it up and she trotted straight to the soft spot in the pasture (kinda Coconut's Bed) and laid right now. She laboring a little making little sounds as she breathes but it's not panting or panic. She obviously doesn't feel well. I called the vet and he said to give her another whole dose so that's where we are now...she has a 12pm check and if all is well, then we'll check back at 5am. The vet will come back very early if the 5am check is not good...or sooner as needed.
He mentioned that sometimes they appear to be on an upswing and then can go backwards in progress...we're all pulling for her...
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Post by Sara on Jul 8, 2010 9:34:50 GMT -5
How's our girl doing this morning?
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Post by schwung on Jul 8, 2010 10:09:40 GMT -5
I spoke with Jet a little bit ago. She did ok overnight and this morning and has not had any more banamine since last night. She's up now and seems comfortable. However, she only drank a little water and one small pile of manure, and the oil has not made its way through yet. If she doesn't improve greatly today and start drinking the vet is going to have to come back this afternoon and give her more fluids.
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Post by coconut on Jul 8, 2010 11:15:22 GMT -5
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Post by trillium on Jul 8, 2010 11:45:06 GMT -5
Has the vet recommended electrolytes for her at all. I believe they have apple flavored that is added to the water. I am pulling for her. In the photo you posted the other day she looked a bit drawn up there, probably due to the diarrhea problem since it can deplete the body of water. I am also guessing they want you to soak her hay and grain. If you have one of those big muck buckets, you can just put the hay in it and fill it with water. My horse will eat it like that.
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Post by schwung on Jul 8, 2010 11:48:26 GMT -5
She did add electrolites to the water but I am thinking she may need the syringe kind to get her interested in her water. Right now she gets no food at all but once she pulls through she may be looking at soaked feed for a while...assuming we can find something she won't turn her nose up at.
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Post by coconut on Jul 8, 2010 12:22:25 GMT -5
we have "PASSAGE" and shhhhhhhhh ....she drinking ...quietly optimisitc... an upturn, I think!
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Post by maeve on Jul 8, 2010 17:45:01 GMT -5
I've been checking on Jasmine throughout the day and she is doing pretty well. She has been standing all day and periodically walking around. SHe has passed a large oily stool which means that the mineral oil is passing through her, and I have seen her drink water (which has electrolytes in it) several times today. She doesn't seem like she feels great, but she has improved since yesterday. she is such a sweet girl.
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Post by trillium on Jul 8, 2010 18:20:46 GMT -5
Here is a good bit of info on sand colic. It states that it usually starts with diarrhea. Maybe you could do the "mason jar" test to see what she is passing. www.equine-originals.com/sandcolic.htmHere is another one. www.naturalhorsetalk.com/documents/SandColicASilentbutDeadlyKiller.pdfThey both recommend feeding in a large tub or on a large mat. They go on to explain that grain will not move sand through the gut, but you need hay to do that. Interesting reading. Hopefully Jasmine will be feeling better soon and you can run some psyillium through her to help move it out if that is what may be wrong. It also says that beet pulp will help in the moving out of sand. Since Jasmine is a picky eater, if you want to try a bag of Omolene 400, which has shredded beet pulp, I will send you the money to cover a couple of bags. I feed this to my ol' mostly toothless Drummer and he is doing great on it. It just needs to be soaked for a little while before feeding.
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Post by coconut on Jul 8, 2010 19:17:23 GMT -5
Here is a good bit of info on sand colic. It states that it usually starts with diarrhea. Maybe you could do the "mason jar" test to see what she is passing. www.equine-originals.com/sandcolic.htmHere is another one. www.naturalhorsetalk.com/documents/SandColicASilentbutDeadlyKiller.pdfThey both recommend feeding in a large tub or on a large mat. They go on to explain that grain will not move sand through the gut, but you need hay to do that. Interesting reading. Hopefully Jasmine will be feeling better soon and you can run some psyillium through her to help move it out if that is what may be wrong. It also says that beet pulp will help in the moving out of sand. Since Jasmine is a picky eater, if you want to try a bag of Omolene 400, which has shredded beet pulp, I will send you the money to cover a couple of bags. I feed this to my ol' mostly toothless Drummer and he is doing great on it. It just needs to be soaked for a little while before feeding. Perhaps I will try to mason jar test...I'd read about that before but have never done it....and I have mason jars!! As for the beet pulp, does the shredded stuff taste any different than the pelleted? That was the first thing she turned her nose up to, then we tried mixing some grain in it and then totally disguising it in soaked Timothy Pellet ...nothing helped. She walked away each time. Lola, however, loves it all ...figures! All of this feels like what I went through with Coconut three years ago which led to lots of changes in everything. It took quite a while to find the right combination. I wish it was as easy as just changing Jasmine to Coconut's diet, but since she doesn't seem to take to anything soaked (Yet!) I'm not holding my breath!
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Post by trillium on Jul 8, 2010 21:55:16 GMT -5
The Omelene 400 is a combination of shredded beet pulp and pelleted feed. It has vitamins and minerals also. It is very good smelling. Regular beet pulp, which I feed to the rest of the horses with their grains, smells different. The 400 is formulated for easy digestion also. Drummer has really picked up weight since we started him on this diet last winter. I mix equal parts of the 400 and alfalfa pellets and let it soak overnight. You can just use the 400 or any other combination. When she is cleared to eat, you might try it. Let me know and I will arrange to pay for it if that is something you want to try.
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Post by schwung on Jul 9, 2010 2:07:03 GMT -5
It is hard for me to write this, and even harder to move her thread to "In Memory", but we lost our beautiful Jasmine tonight. I will let Jet share the details as she was there, and I wasn't, but we don't know exactly what happened. She was better today, and then tonight Jet found her sweating all over. Her heart rate was elevated. She called the vet and the vet said to give her more Banamine and if that didn't work he would come back out. She was not lying down or rolling, but she was clearly uncomfortable. I was on the phone with her at 11pm, she was at the barn but talking to me in her car. As we talked, she went back to check on Jasmine, and she was gone. Just like that, in the 30 minutes or so since Jet had last checked on her. All I keep thinking is that it happened so much like Ella, her beautiful filly that we lost. I think, like Ella, Jasmine's body was just too damaged from her previous neglect that it just couldn't handle the stress of the colic. She just gave up the fight and let go. Maeve, Jet, Ken, Kelly, and all the folks at the barn where Jasmine was have kept an almost constant vigil over her throughout the last 48 hours, and she chose the window of time when she was alone...like Ella. We are all in shock and filled with sorrow over this unexpected and tragic loss. Please also send your healing thoughts to all that helped Jasmine the last few days and especially Jet, who I know is distraught over what happened tonight. I hope Jasmine is running free in a beautiful pasture now, with Ella at her side. RIP sweet girl.
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Post by trillium on Jul 9, 2010 7:59:11 GMT -5
Damnit, I got up and checked this as soon as I got out of bed because I had a dream she did not make it.
I am sorry she lost her battle. If it was sand colic, it could have been too late and her intestine ruptured, that would have probably caused her to die quickly like that the profuse sweating would have been caused by the pain.
Jet, thank you for caring for her. Like I said, she was one of my favorites at SAFE.
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Post by honeydofarm on Jul 9, 2010 8:15:36 GMT -5
I'm so sorry. Thank you for giving her the best life possible and for doing everything you could for her.
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Post by bsnlark on Jul 9, 2010 11:34:59 GMT -5
Sympathy and sorrow Thank you Jet, and all who took care and watched over Jasmine. In her honor flowers will be laid next to Mort............ Larkspur,Ishmael, Buckwheat and me
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