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Post by mymercedes on May 20, 2009 15:57:08 GMT -5
As far as a western vs. english area for games classes......I would say we may be a bit more western down here, but, there are quite a lot of english riders as well. From my experience when I was showing regularly, the western classes were always bigger.
There is a ton of room at this arena for nearly any class you would ever want to hold so adding games classes shouldn't be a big deal at all.
Re: Gaited Classes. I was just thinking it would be a plus for gaited horses to have their own class. Gaited horses don't usually do as well when showing against regularly gaited horses. They tend to be bigger movers and lap everyone else, and in a typical walk/jog pleasure class, most judges don't know what to do with the gaited ones. What to call it and how to judge it remains the question. I'll have to put some thought into that one!
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Post by mymercedes on May 29, 2009 10:24:31 GMT -5
Regarding the Gaited Horse class. Maybe we should do a "Gaited Horse Pleasure, English or Western" one class combined, and have it be judged more on consistent way of going (no breaking gait, no crazy behavior). More like a manners class. Since so many gaited horses travel differently, making it hard to judge the actual correctness of a certain gait, maybe we could just do a walk, secondary gait, class based on overall way of going? This would obviously be more of a fun class than a technical one, but it does sound fun.
Any ideas? We need to get it on the class sponsorship list if we are going to have one.
I will offer to sponsor that class should we add it.
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Post by barberperformance on May 29, 2009 10:45:30 GMT -5
There are a lot more western riders in the .... area. I'm not awake yet and I really was about to list off every city/town from Enumclaw to Lacey and everywhere in between in accordance with your show in Puyallup LOL~!
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Post by shekaberry on May 29, 2009 11:00:56 GMT -5
I have secured a Judge for this year's show. Leslie Killpatrick will be judging this year. Leslie comes on a recommendation from Heidi Hopen-Wright, last years judge, and is very happy to be working with SAFE. She has graciously waived her judging fee to be part of our show. Be sure to take time to thank her for her generosity when you come out this year! I will be sending her a class list for her to review and comment. I will ask about adding a gaited pleasure class. Who's gonna show Hope in it?
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Post by mymercedes on Jun 9, 2009 20:53:40 GMT -5
As I was posting the sponsorship list, I was able to really look at the class list had have a couple of questions. Did we decide to do a yearling halter class? Did we have any entrants last year in the Trails, Leadline Class? Also, in the trails classes, are the entrants required to walk, trot, and canter or can they walk the course (being ridden) and not be counted down? I missed the trail last year and can't remember, but think that was discussed. Also, any further discussion of a gaited horse class or am I the only one with a gaited horse, now that Hope has been adopted?
If there are any changes to the class list, please let me know and I will make them to the sponsorship list. Thanks
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Post by jaybird on Jun 9, 2009 21:28:11 GMT -5
no yearling halter class - they can go in the regular halter class (rescue or non-rescue)
We do get entrants in the Leadline Trails class. Crystal can fill you in on how they are judged, but I know that she runs classes that are safe for all levels of riders and I believe that she gives people the option to work at whatever gait they are most comfortable in.
As for the gaited horse class, I think we are waiting to hear from the judge if it's something she can judge or not.
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Post by Whitewolf821 on Jun 9, 2009 22:04:53 GMT -5
Info on trails course/gaits as requested.... I generally request the entire course be done at a walk except for one area where I have ground poles laid out for trotting. Other than that, for everyone's safety (both horse and handler/rider) the course is done at a walk. It's also much easier for me to judge at a walk. For instance, if a horse is going to bolt past the goats, I can see it much easier and how their rider handles it much easier if they were at a walk to begin with. I do have a lot of entrants into leadline 8 and under. There are plenty of kids who go through on Mom or Dad's horse and are way too little to do the course on their own. For leadline, I do not have them do a portion of the course because of the danger presented if the horse should react badly to the goats, tarp, etc. Most little riders don't hold their seat as well even if Mom or Dad is holding the lead rope. This has worked successfully for the past two shows, so I see no reason to change it ;D ETA: I am happy to answer any questions anyone has on the trails course. For those of you who remember it from last year, there won't be a whole lot of changes. In years past, everyone has been pretty happy with my course as it is. Why fix it if it isn't broken?
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Post by jaybird on Jun 9, 2009 22:29:32 GMT -5
Why fix it if it isn't broken? my thoughts exactly!
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Post by fatblackmare on Jun 24, 2009 17:42:14 GMT -5
Please do keep the trail leadline classes. For me to bring my four year old daughter and have her only ride in one class is very hard on her. Also - for a timing thing - can we have leadline maybe not first (got to get the freshness out) but not last/end of day. I just was at a Three day long USEF show and they did leadline third to last on Sunday. My daughter and the other little girl in the class were both exhausted, cranky and sad to not get to ride until the end. In hand trail is great fun as well and a great way to see the obedience of a horse on the ground vs the saddle.
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Post by squirrels on Jun 27, 2009 19:35:15 GMT -5
Classes - I'd like to see the game classes come back from the first show. Lots of people enjoy them and you can also offer a trotting-only version of each class which is always fun for horses and people that aren't ready to run yet. agreed. When I was asking Katie if she wanted to bring Chanel, she immediately asked if the trotting games were still on the class list. If so, I am SO bringing my OTSTB!!!!
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Post by mymercedes on Jun 27, 2009 20:09:30 GMT -5
Question as to required show attire. I have had some people ask me about required show clothing. Last year it appeared the show was very casual. I didn't see a lot of chaps or fancy clothes. Are chaps or hats required for the western classes? Helmets for the english classes? Also, are two hands permitted in the western classes or are we going by the general rules that only horses 4 and under are permitted to be ridden with two hands?
Also, are there any flyers ready for posting at the local feed and tack stores or can I take the liberty to create some of my own and post them when I'm out and about?
We're getting close!!
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Post by jaybird on Jun 28, 2009 12:20:07 GMT -5
Okay, let's nail down the final class list.
AGE DIVISIONS: I want to propose reducing the number of age divisions from 3 to 2. In both previous shows, we've had little to no entries in the 14-17 age division, so in order to add games back in, I think we need to ax this entire division.
So, should the age divisions be: 17 & under 18 & over?
Or do we want to do something like: 15 & under 16 & over?
Please weigh in on this. Remember we still have 4 over the hill classes for the 40 & ups!
SENIOR HORSE DIVISION (horse 15 & over) We added this last year and there were some entries in the English classes; none in the Western classes. Should we keep this as a division? Or make up some classes for Senior Horses?
GAMING I think we can add two gaming classes with two age divisions. So what will they be: - Barrel racing - (what?) (last time we did Idaho Stakes and California Stakes)
GAITED Okay, let's add one gaited class, open, english/western
BAREBACK Again, not a lot of entries in this last year, so I propose one Open English and one Open Western bareback class.
SHOWMANSHIP Do we need to have separate classes for English and Western showmanship or is it okay to combine them at the beginning of the show?
Please weigh in ASAP!!! Thanks!
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Post by Whitewolf821 on Jun 28, 2009 13:30:55 GMT -5
I think we are better off going with 15 & under/16 & over.
With the gaming, I agree with barrel racing & the stakes. We need to keep Sit A Buck and Bribe Your Horse though too. I love watching those two!
The rest of it I've never had a chance to weigh in on. I end up at trails all day, so I've never seen the rest of the show!
ETA: If we are changing the ages to 15/16, I propose we change the ages on the trails course also to follow with the same ages
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Post by mymercedes on Jun 28, 2009 13:51:57 GMT -5
OK, regarding the age divisions, I still like the 17 and under, 18 and over.
Remember, this is a much more western location than bridle trails, and I think our western classes may be bigger than the english classes this year, so I would propose leaving the senior horse western pleasure alone. Besides, don't we have some former broodies coming?
Regarding bareback....I agree completely with one english and one western bareback class.
Regarding Showmanship. I think we can get away with holding it right after halter, and keep the age divisions. Let's do a 17 and under english or western showmanship, and do a 18 and over english or western showmanship. We could also do an over the hill (40+) english or western showmanship. I don't think it's necessary to break showmanship into an english or western class. It is judged the same way, just different attire.
Yeah for the gaited horse class! THOSE WITH GAITED HORSES BETTER COME! What was the judges input on this class??
I know nothing about gaming so hopefully someone who games can weigh in on this one.
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Post by cat67 on Jun 28, 2009 15:35:46 GMT -5
I'm sure I can get barrels and poles on loan from my trainer's if you guys want to use them.
I'd offer canter and trot versions of barrels and poles (split by age) along with the "fun" games like Sit a Buck. One nice thing about trot barrels is that a mom can lead a horse through with a kid who is not ready to go by themselves yet.
And of course we have to have Bribe Your Horse. I think Thai would enjoy practicing for that.
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