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Post by cat67 on Oct 19, 2009 16:26:07 GMT -5
Dr. Briskey in Orting will usually geld for under $100 and I've used him with good results.
I think that stallion is stunning, too. And from my experience, it does not take a long time for most horses to shed the stud mentality with good handling. It is not a job for a novice, and would be best for someone who has handled studs before and has appropriate fencing such as a panel paddock.
The one I had from the Shelton animal control seizure was a dead quiet stud to begin with so he was no issue. Went out with other geldings 2 weeks later, no problems. Got on him, who knows how long it had been for him - he didn't put a foot wrong.
Juliane gelded Ace and Romeo and put them out with others quickly, also with no major problems.
Sully, the Arabian that Pony Up rescued (was on CL, one of those three Arabs) is a mellow guy who quickly took to training as an older horse and newly gelded.
It just depends on the horse. It is a complete misconception that a horse is wild BECAUSE it is a stallion. No, it is wild for the same reason any horse is - poor training and poor handling and natural inclination to be a PITA. I can rant about this all day. It makes me crazy when people use testicles as an excuse for bad behavior. Bad behavior is caused by the same thing that causes it in mares and geldings - inconsistent, permissive handling. And let me tell you, if you've CREATED that as a stallion, an operation won't fix it. You will still have a beastly gelding.
So a lot hinges upon what his manners are right now. What a SHAME that no one trained him. I find it atrocious that anybody has a stallion or broodmare and does not break it to ride. You're destroying their chances of any kind of decent future if you don't.
For that matter, if no one had the $$ to train and show him, he should have been gelded and then he probably wouldn't be in this position at all!
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Post by glapaints on Oct 19, 2009 17:24:37 GMT -5
Well I think I may have placed a horse temporarily, they may even buy her. I'm going to email her about bringing him to me. I'd pick him up but I don't have a running truck. That and another quarter pony colt which I plan to register and train. All these horses lack training... if there were just trained
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Post by trillium on Oct 19, 2009 17:31:39 GMT -5
The crappy thing about this horse is he is older, unbroke and 14.2hh. No one, and I mean even the people who love his breeding, is breeding studs that small anymore. This Horse is actually stallion quality. He is stunning. However- he has not been shown, his babies have not been campaigned and there is nothing appealing about taking this guy on when you can get horses 1/2 his age, already showing A circuit and not in need of stallion fencing for under $1000. They have been trying to sell him for a long time- about a year. I am happy she is hanging on to him and not dragging him to the auction- that alone deserves a Kudo in light of what was at Enumclaw this last month. I wish I had stallion proof fencing and a million dollars and I would geld him and let him hang out with the geldings on my front pasture but I don't. If someone wants a beautiful horse- and I do not say that lightly, he is light gray with black mane and tail, smooth bodied, swan neck with a stunning head, and they have the resources- this horse is worth taking on. Chelsea, you would not need stallion proof fencing if he were a gelding. ;D And besides, I keep my Arabian stallion in regular non-climb horse fencing. It has a top rail and is backed up by a hot wire. (Most of the time the hot wire is on but sometimes it is not.) There really is no trick to keeping a stallion. They should have secure fencing like any other horse.
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Post by glapaints on Oct 19, 2009 19:36:51 GMT -5
The crappy thing about this horse is he is older, unbroke and 14.2hh. No one, and I mean even the people who love his breeding, is breeding studs that small anymore. This Horse is actually stallion quality. He is stunning. However- he has not been shown, his babies have not been campaigned and there is nothing appealing about taking this guy on when you can get horses 1/2 his age, already showing A circuit and not in need of stallion fencing for under $1000. They have been trying to sell him for a long time- about a year. I am happy she is hanging on to him and not dragging him to the auction- that alone deserves a Kudo in light of what was at Enumclaw this last month. I wish I had stallion proof fencing and a million dollars and I would geld him and let him hang out with the geldings on my front pasture but I don't. If someone wants a beautiful horse- and I do not say that lightly, he is light gray with black mane and tail, smooth bodied, swan neck with a stunning head, and they have the resources- this horse is worth taking on. Chelsea, you would not need stallion proof fencing if he were a gelding. ;D And besides, I keep my Arabian stallion in regular non-climb horse fencing. It has a top rail and is backed up by a hot wire. (Most of the time the hot wire is on but sometimes it is not.) There really is no trick to keeping a stallion. They should have secure fencing like any other horse. Yes if you have secure fensing then it should be like keeping any other horse. I'm not sure but some counties may have other laws. Anywho, I emailed her about him and am waiting for a call back. If things go as planned, he'll be in my barn by tomorrow AND *feels proud of herself* I already have a home for him AND she's going to continue training him for her so that he's better off and not just a pasture figure.
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Post by Buena on Oct 19, 2009 22:25:39 GMT -5
Amanda, if you need any help let me know. I am free during the week and could sneak away to give you a hand. If he is at the facility I think he is, he's probably decently cared for. I have been watching that ad for a LONG time and was hoping someone would take him and get him some help. I have all mares here, and no real stallion-safe option...and a hubby that would have killed me.
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Post by glapaints on Oct 19, 2009 22:45:46 GMT -5
Amanda, if you need any help let me know. I am free during the week and could sneak away to give you a hand. If he is at the facility I think he is, he's probably decently cared for. I have been watching that ad for a LONG time and was hoping someone would take him and get him some help. I have all mares here, and no real stallion-safe option...and a hubby that would have killed me. Well, from what she said in her email he was thin. How thin is the million dollar question. Help is always nice. I'll know more when he gets here and I have a moment to watch him and see what kind of stallion he is.
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Post by Buena on Oct 20, 2009 1:02:42 GMT -5
Well, from what she said in her email he was thin. How thin is the million dollar question. Help is always nice. I'll know more when he gets here and I have a moment to watch him and see what kind of stallion he is. You have my number if you need it.
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Post by glapaints on Oct 20, 2009 2:23:20 GMT -5
Well, from what she said in her email he was thin. How thin is the million dollar question. Help is always nice. I'll know more when he gets here and I have a moment to watch him and see what kind of stallion he is. You have my number if you need it. ................... do i?
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Post by Buena on Oct 20, 2009 10:57:26 GMT -5
................... do i? We chatted when Seaside Dawn Delight was here. I will PM you again with my number.
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Post by cat67 on Oct 20, 2009 11:08:47 GMT -5
The good thing about thin and Arabians is that it's usually easily remedied. Look at Heidi, she looked awesome in four months, and she was the closest I have seen to dead that was still standing. Let us know how it goes.
And yes, all these horses get into trouble due to lack of training. If I ever win the lottery or find a rich donor, I will have a rescue that has one purpose: Training/restarting 15+ year old broodmares. I LOVE old broodmares and they need new jobs!
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Post by glapaints on Oct 20, 2009 13:00:31 GMT -5
................... do i? We chatted when Seaside Dawn Delight was here. I will PM you again with my number. OH THATS RIGHT! Send me your name in the PM so I have something to save in my phone.
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Post by mytwoponies on Oct 20, 2009 16:41:42 GMT -5
I saw this on craigslist and I just had to laugh. I'm sorry for posting this but it's funny (I took out the reply to info). I think they got a number of interesting inquiries which led to this:
Free Palomino quarter pony colt,colt,colt,colt - $1 (Centralia) Date: 2009-10-18, 12:16PM PDT
HE IS A COLT. A COLT, MEANS HE STILL HAS HIS BALLS!!!! Can't sell the little *&$%), so if someone wants a nice colt(HE HAS BALLS), come get him. Nice looking 14 month old palomino quarter pony colt(HE HAS BALLS).
Got him on a trade with another horse and were keeping the other one. He is out of a paint stallion and welsh mare. He can be registered as a breeding stock Pinto, since he is a solid and he can also be registered in the American Quarter Pony Registry as he isn’t going to get very tall, maybe 14HH.
I have signed paperwork for him, he’s on application only. He has a very cute little head, nice conformation too. He can get a little pissy at feeding time, but a severe growl at him will perk his ears up right now and fast. He clips, loads and most of the time is easy to catch. He is out on pasture with some broodmares and a gelding.
Give me a call and set up a time to come look/get him. If your a tire kicker, please don't waste my time. He is a palomino, he is a colt (HE HAS BALLS), he will stay short. He does have a dorsal stripe, so maybe a dunolino.
What else do you want to know? IS HE A STALLION/COLT YES!!!!! (360) XXX-XXXX I can deliver for a fee, that part isn't free
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Post by cat67 on Oct 20, 2009 17:08:56 GMT -5
Should I email him and tell him there's a cure for that? BTW, he's out of a Paint stallion? OUCH!
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Post by trillium on Oct 20, 2009 20:23:55 GMT -5
Amanda, are you going to have him gelded?
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Post by glapaints on Oct 21, 2009 0:32:56 GMT -5
Amanda, are you going to have him gelded? I'm pushing to have him gelded. I picked him up and I'm training him but his ownership is not mine. It's my friends. She's leaning towards it its just getting her to do it. Plus, he's a 3 right now and I already called vets and they say not until he puts on some weight.
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